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04/27/2023 03:30 PM Senate STATE AFFAIRS

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            SB 138-ELECTIONS; VOTER REG.; CAMPAIGNS                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
3:34:47 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  KAWASAKI announced  the consideration  of SENATE  BILL NO.                                                               
138 "An Act  relating to elections; relating  to voters; relating                                                               
to voting;  relating to the  crime of unlawful  interference with                                                               
voting in the first degree;  relating to campaign signs; relating                                                               
to the reporting  of financial and business  interests by certain                                                               
municipal  officers  and  former   officers  and  candidates  for                                                               
municipal  office;  relating  to  the  Redistricting  Board;  and                                                               
providing for an effective date."                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
He noted that  the committee heard a similar bill  earlier in the                                                               
session. He listed  the individuals who were  available to answer                                                               
questions.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:35:32 PM                                                                                                                    
MATT  LONGABAUGH, Staff,  Senator  Scott  Kawasaki, Alaska  State                                                               
Legislature,  Juneau, Alaska,  introduced SB  138 by  reading the                                                               
sponsor statement:                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Over  360,000  Alaskans  voted  in  the  2020  election                                                                    
     making it the election  with the greatest participation                                                                    
     in Alaska  history. Yet 173,000 Alaskans  were eligible                                                                    
     to vote or registered to  vote but did not. Senate Bill                                                                    
     138 seeks  to build  upon the participatory  success of                                                                    
     the   2020   election   by  strengthening   the   voter                                                                    
     registration      system,     tightening      residency                                                                    
     requirements,  paying  postage   for  by-mail  absentee                                                                    
     ballots,   and  requiring   the   Alaska  Division   of                                                                    
     Elections to  offer absentee voters  the option  to fix                                                                    
     errors   in  their   ballots.  This   bill  facilitates                                                                    
     participation for  those legally  eligible to  vote and                                                                    
     ensures   the  integrity   of  elections   by  updating                                                                    
     absentee ballot verification and curing.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Currently, voters  are not notified of  errors in their                                                                    
     absentee   ballots   until   after  the   election   is                                                                    
     certified.  Over 7,500  ballots  were  rejected in  the                                                                    
     2022 special primary election,  a 4.55% rejection rate.                                                                    
     That's about  1/20 ballots.  On average,  if we  all in                                                                    
     this room had voted by  mail, the Division of Elections                                                                    
     would  have  rejected  at  least  one  of  our  ballots                                                                    
     without notifying us until it was too late.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Therefore, SB 138 establishes  a ballot tracking system                                                                    
     and a ballot curing  process. The ballot curing process                                                                    
     requires  the   Division  to   notify  voters   if  the                                                                    
     signature on  their ballot  does not  match the  one on                                                                    
     their  registration.  Other  updates  to  the  election                                                                    
     system include:                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
        • requiring the Division of Elections to count                                                                          
          absentee  ballots  starting  at least  seven  days                                                                    
          before election day and  beginning to release vote                                                                    
          tallies at 8pm on election day,                                                                                       
        •  tightening and clarifying residency requirements                                                                     
          for  voting  in  order  to  clean  Alaska's  voter                                                                    
          rolls,                                                                                                                
        • replacing the witness signature requirement with                                                                      
          a signature verification  system and requiring the                                                                    
          Division   of  Elections   to   ballot  cure   for                                                                    
          signature discrepancies,                                                                                              
        • pre-paying vote by mail postage and allowing a                                                                        
          verifiable date  sent (such as  a USPS  bar code),                                                                    
          rather than  the postmarked date, to  serve as the                                                                    
          date on which the voter voted,                                                                                        
        • making explicit what happens when someone votes                                                                       
          twice  and  maintaining  that it  is  a  crime  to                                                                    
          intentionally vote more than once.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Voting  rights are  fundamental to  American democracy,                                                                    
     which works  best when eligible voters  can participate                                                                    
     and  have the  freedom to  choose our  elected leaders.                                                                    
     Optimizing and strengthening  our voting system ensures                                                                    
     that these freedoms and rights prevail.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:38:35 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR KAWASAKI asked Mr. Dunsmore to begin the presentation.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:38:46 PM                                                                                                                    
DAVID DUNSMORE,  Staff, Senator  Bill Wielechowski,  Alaska State                                                               
Legislature,  Juneau, Alaska,  delivered the  presentation titled                                                               
SB 138  Omnibus Elections Bill.  He stated that he  would briefly                                                               
walk  through the  individual policies  in SB  138, the  first of                                                               
which is  to require signature verification  for absentee by-mail                                                               
ballots. He  reviewed the signature requirements  listed on slide                                                               
4.                                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
        • Signatures on  absentee ballot envelopes  would be                                                                    
          compared to the voter's signature on file with                                                                        
          the division of elections.                                                                                            
        • Signatures  can  be verified  electronically,  and                                                                    
          reviewers will be trained to identify handwriting                                                                     
          patterns to manually verify signatures.                                                                               
        • The  Municipality  of Anchorage  has  successfully                                                                    
          employed signature verification since 2018.                                                                           
        • Voters would  have the  opportunity to  cure their                                                                    
         ballots if their signature cannot be verified.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR. DUNSMORE  stated that  SB 138  repeals the  witness Signature                                                               
requirement. He  reviewed the specifics  of that  policy outlined                                                               
on slide 6, "The requirement  for a witness signature for by-mail                                                               
ballots disenfranchises Alaskans."                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
        • In  the  2022   special  primary  election,  2,724                                                                    
          ballots were rejected because of a missing                                                                            
          witness signature- 1.7% of all ballots cast.                                                                          
        • Witness  signature  rejections  disproportionately                                                                    
          affected rural Alaska.                                                                                                
        • In  District 38,  10.9% of  all ballots  cast were                                                                    
          rejected for missing witness signatures.                                                                              
        • There  is no  indication  of  any misconduct  with                                                                    
          these rejected ballots.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
3:40:35 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. DUNSMORE advanced to slide 7, "The witness signature                                                                        
requirement   provides    no   meaningful    election   integrity                                                               
protection." He spoke to the following points.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
        • The Division of Elections  has testified that they                                                                    
          do not have any way to verify that witness                                                                            
          signatures meet the statutory requirement that                                                                        
          they be from a person at least 18.                                                                                    
        • The  Division accepts  as valid  any mark  made in                                                                    
          the witness signature portion of the envelope.                                                                        
        • The  absentee  by-mail   envelope  does  not  even                                                                    
          provide space for the witness to print their name                                                                     
          or provide their date of birth.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR. DUNSMORE described the ballot curing policy and process                                                                     
outlined on slides 8-10.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     A voter will be able to cure their ballot and have it                                                                      
     counted if it would be rejected because:                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
        • The voter did not sign the ballot envelope.                                                                           
        • The voter's signature cannot be verified.                                                                             
        • The voter  did not provide an  identifier that can                                                                    
          be verified.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     The Ballot Curing Process                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
        • Within  24  hours  of receiving  the  ballot,  the                                                                    
          Division mails a deficiency notice with curing                                                                        
          instructions.                                                                                                         
        • It  the voter  has  a phone  number  on file,  the                                                                    
          Division will call and text them as well.                                                                             
        • The voter  returns the  cure form  confirming they                                                                    
          voted the ballot with a copy of their ID and a                                                                        
          signature.                                                                                                            
        • The cure process may be done electronically.                                                                          
        • A properly cured  ballot will be counted  if it is                                                                    
          otherwise valid.                                                                                                      
        • If the voter  responds that they did  not vote the                                                                    
          ballot, it will be referred to the Attorney                                                                           
          General.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR. DUNSMORE described the policy about voter registration                                                                      
within 30 days of an election outlined on slides 11-12.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
        Allows voters who register within 30 days of an                                                                         
     election to vote                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
        • Currently a  voter must register in  the state and                                                                    
          district in  which they are voting  30 days before                                                                    
          the election.                                                                                                         
        • This means an Alaska  resident who moves within 30                                                                    
          of the election might not  be able to validly vote                                                                    
          in any district.                                                                                                      
        • The   Division    already   conducts    same   day                                                                    
          registration   for  presidential   elections,  but                                                                    
          these votes are only counted for president.                                                                           
        • Voters  registering within  30 days  will only  be                                                                    
          able  to  vote   absentee,  early,  or  questioned                                                                    
          ballots  which  will  be reviewed  to  ensure  the                                                                    
          voter is eligible.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:42:50 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. DUNSMORE described the policy relating to the voter                                                                         
registration cancellation process outlined on slides 13-14.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
       Creates a statutory procedure for voters to cancel                                                                       
     their registration                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
        • Currently the Division of  Elections will cancel a                                                                    
          voter's registration  if they  request, but  it is                                                                    
          not required by statute.                                                                                              
        • Voters   would   be   allowed  to   cancel   their                                                                    
          registration in person or electronically.                                                                             
        • The  process for  cancelling a  registration would                                                                    
          be posted at polling places.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR. DUNSMORE described the policy relating to poll watchers and                                                                 
ballot review observers for candidates and question campaigns on                                                                
slides 15-16.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
         Poll Watchers and Ballot Review Observers for                                                                          
     Candidates and Question Campaigns                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
        • Currently statutes only  provide for observers for                                                                    
          political  parties,  initiatives,  referenda,  and                                                                    
          recalls.                                                                                                              
        • This  provision  clarifies   that  candidates  and                                                                    
         ballot question campaigns may have observers.                                                                          
        • Ballot     questions    include     constitutional                                                                    
          amendments,      judicial     retention,      bond                                                                    
          propositions, and advisory votes.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:43:19 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. DUNSMORE advanced to slides 17 and 18.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Allow Ballot Review Observers at All Review Tables                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
        • This  provision ensures  that  campaigns may  have                                                                    
          observers at all locations where ballots are                                                                          
          reviewed in the same counting center.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR. DUNSMORE advanced to slides 19 and 20 to discuss allowing                                                                   
international election observers.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
       Allow international election observers at polling                                                                        
     places and counting centers                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
        • Only international  organizations that  the United                                                                    
          States belong to may have observers.                                                                                  
        • Observation missions  must be invited by  the U.S.                                                                    
          State Department.                                                                                                     
        • International  observers will  not  be allowed  to                                                                    
          make challenges.                                                                                                      
        • The Organization  for Security and  Cooperation is                                                                    
          the only organization the State Department                                                                            
          regularly invites to observe elections.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR. DUNSMORE advanced to slides 21-22 relating to repealing the                                                                 
requirement for APOCV to have offices in every senate district.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Current   law  requires   the  Alaska   Public  Offices                                                                    
     Commission to  have offices  in every  Senate district.                                                                    
     They  have never  been given  the funding  necessary to                                                                    
     comply with this requirement.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
        • This  bill  replaces  the requirement  for  Senate                                                                    
          district offices with a requirement that reports                                                                      
          filed with APOC be available online.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:43:58 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. DUNSMORE advanced to slides 23-24 relating to clarifying how                                                                
to handle when a voter votes more than once.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
      Creates a consistent standard for when a voter votes                                                                      
     more than once                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
        • Currently,   depending  on   how  a   voter  votes                                                                    
          multiple times, they will have either one or                                                                          
          counted or all their votes will be rejected.                                                                          
        • This  bill  clarifies that  if  a  voter votes  in                                                                    
          person and by another means, the in-person vote                                                                       
          shall count. Otherwise, the first ballot to be                                                                        
          reviewed shall be the one that is counted.                                                                            
        • Under  no circumstances  will  a  voter have  more                                                                    
          than one vote counted.                                                                                                
        • General multiple  voting is  the result  of honest                                                                    
          mistakes by voters with memory issues, but all                                                                        
          cases of multiple voting must be referred to the                                                                      
          Attorney General.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. DUNSMORE advanced to slides 25-26 to discuss risk-limiting                                                                  
audits.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
      Risk-limiting audits are designed to reduce the risk                                                                      
     of certifying an incorrect result                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
        • These   audits  take   place  after   counting  is                                                                    
          completed and before the election is certified.                                                                       
        • Risk-limiting  audits  are  used in  at  least  16                                                                    
          states.                                                                                                               
        • The Division shall  develop statistical methods to                                                                    
          determine what results to audit.                                                                                      
        • Campaigns  will  be  able  to  observe  the  audit                                                                    
          process.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR. DUNSMORE advanced to slides 27-28.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Postage Paid Return Envelopes for Absentee Ballots                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
        • Requires return  postage to  be paid  for absentee                                                                    
          ballot envelopes to facilitate voting.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:44:40 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  DUNSMORE  continued   to  slides  29  and   30  relating  to                                                               
preventing special  needs ballots from being  rejected because of                                                               
mistakes by poll workers or  the representatives of special needs                                                               
voters.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
        Currently special needs ballots can be rejected                                                                         
          because of mistakes by poll workers or voter                                                                          
     representatives.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
        • In the  2022 general election 8%  of special needs                                                                    
          ballots were rejected, compared with only 1.3% of                                                                     
          by-mail ballots.                                                                                                      
        • This  bill  would  prevent special  needs  ballots                                                                    
          from being rejected if they meet the requirements                                                                     
          for an absentee ballot to be counted.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR. DUNSMORE advanced to slides 31-32 relating to tracking                                                                      
barcodes for absentee ballot envelopes.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
       Requires the Division to provide a ballot tracking                                                                       
     system for voters                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
        • The  Division already  offers ballot  tracking and                                                                    
          this bill places it into statute.                                                                                     
        • Voters  can  check  the  status  of  their  ballot                                                                    
          online and see whether it has been counted or                                                                         
          rejected.                                                                                                             
        • This bill  requires a  multi-factor authentication                                                                    
          system to protect voters' privacy                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. DUNSMORE advanced to slides 33-34 to discuss the rules for                                                                  
challenging ballots.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
        The Division must adopt regulations establishing                                                                        
     procedures for challenging ballot review decisions                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
        • Currently it  is unclear  how long  campaigns have                                                                    
          to file a challenge and campaigns often have to                                                                       
          negotiate this with the regional counting                                                                             
          centers.                                                                                                              
        • This  bill  requires   regulations  to  explicitly                                                                    
          address the challenge process.                                                                                        
        • These regulations must allow  at least 24 hours to                                                                    
          submit a challenge.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:45:22 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. DUNSMORE continued to slides 35-36 to discuss codifying the                                                                 
ACLU of Alaska v. State of Alaska settlement terms.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
       In 2018, Alaska Settled a Lawsuit over the Ban on                                                                        
     Political Signs Along State Roads                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
        • Alaska's  billboard  law  bans  advertising  along                                                                    
          state roads.  In this settlement the  state agreed                                                                    
          not to  enforce this  ban against  political signs                                                                    
          32 square  feet or smaller on  private property if                                                                    
          the  sign is  not in  a  highway right  of way  or                                                                    
          displayed for compensation.                                                                                           
        • This  provision  updates  the statutes  to  codify                                                                    
          these settlement terms.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR. DUNSMORE turned to slides 37-38 to discuss financial                                                                        
disclosure for redistricting board members.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
    Currently   there    are   no    financial   disclosure                                                                     
     requirements for Redistricting Board members                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
        • Redistricting Board members would  be added to the                                                                    
          list of officials who must file public official                                                                       
          financial disclosures with APOC.                                                                                      
        • Financial disclosures allow the  public to know of                                                                    
          any potential conflicts of interest.                                                                                  
        • Dozens   of  boards   already  require   financial                                                                    
          disclosures.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:46:01 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. DUNSMORE continued to slides 39-40 relating to the                                                                          
redistricting board being subject to the Open Meetings Act.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
         Clarifies the Open Meetings Act applies to the                                                                         
     Redistricting Board                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
        • The OMA  requires public  notice for  meetings and                                                                    
          that decisions be made in public.                                                                                     
        • In  two  different  redistricting  cycles,  courts                                                                    
          have ruled against the board's argument that it                                                                       
          was not subject to the OMA.                                                                                           
        • This will  make it  crystal clear in  statute that                                                                    
          the board must follow the OMA                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR. DUNSMORE advanced to slides 41-42 to discuss ballot drop                                                                    
boxes requirements.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
      Requires secure drop boxes be provided for elections                                                                      
     conducted by mail                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
        • The division has the  authority to conduct certain                                                                    
          elections  by   mail,  like  the   [2022]  special                                                                    
          primary election.                                                                                                     
        • Drop boxes  would be required, if  practicable, at                                                                    
          Division   of   Elections   offices   and   within                                                                    
          municipalities of at least 20,000 people.                                                                             
        • There would  be at  least one  drop box  for every                                                                    
          20,000 residents.                                                                                                     
        • The   division   shall  establish   criteria   for                                                                    
          choosing drop box locations by regulation.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
3:46:29 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. DUNSMORE continued to slides 43-44 to review residency                                                                      
clarifications.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
      Clarifies the definition of residency and process to                                                                      
     challenge a voter's residency                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
        • This bill clarifies that a  voter's residence is a                                                                    
          place  where they  have  a definite,  articulable,                                                                    
          and  reasonable plan  to return  to whenever  they                                                                    
          are absent.                                                                                                           
        • It  also   establishes  that  the   presumption  a                                                                    
          voter's  registered  address  is accurate  can  be                                                                    
          rebutted by  evidence that they reside  at another                                                                    
          location.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
3:46:55 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. DUNSMORE advanced to slides 45-46 to discuss clarifying the                                                                 
timing for counting absentee ballots.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
       Beginning Scanning Absentee Ballots 7 Days Before                                                                        
     Election Day                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
        • This  bill  will  allow  election  results  to  be                                                                    
          available  earlier  by   having  the  scanning  of                                                                    
          absentee ballots begin  seven days before Election                                                                    
          Day.                                                                                                                  
        • Tabulated results  will not be released  until the                                                                    
          polls close at 8pm on Election Day.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. DUNSMORE continued to slides 47-48 to discuss continuing                                                                    
absentee by-mail voting.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
        Allows voters to request to continue to receive                                                                         
     absentee by-mail for future elections                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
        • The  Division currently  allows this  for military                                                                    
          and overseas voters.                                                                                                  
        • This  bill  would  allow  voters  to  continue  to                                                                    
          receive by-mail if they vote at least once every                                                                      
          four years.                                                                                                           
        • Every  absentee ballot  returned will  continue to                                                                    
          be reviewed to ensure it is valid.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:47:26 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.   DUNSMORE  displayed   slides   49-50   and  discussed   the                                                               
requirements for language assistance.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Codifies language assistance requirements                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
        • Federal   law  requires   the  state   to  provide                                                                    
          language assistance for voting in certain                                                                             
          languages.                                                                                                            
        • Currently   Alaska  provides   assistance  in   10                                                                    
          indigenous languages and dialects as well as                                                                          
          Spanish and Tagalog.                                                                                                  
        • This bill requires that voters  be able to request                                                                    
          that election materials be mailed to them in any                                                                      
          language for which the state is required to                                                                           
          provide assistance.                                                                                                   
        • Information about the  availability of language at                                                                    
          polling where language assistance is available.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR. DUNSMORE offered to answer questions.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:48:11 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  CLAMAN asked  what was  in SB  138 that  was not  in the                                                               
elections bill last year and what  was in the bill last year that                                                               
isn't in SB 138.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR. DUNSMORE  answered that  SB 138  started with  the negotiated                                                               
compromise that  didn't make  it through  the process  last year.                                                               
Changes were  made to that  bill. Some provisions that  appear in                                                               
SB  138 but  were not  in  the bill  from last  year include  the                                                               
special  needs ballot  and the  international election  observer.                                                               
Some  provisions that  were in  the compromise  bill but  weren't                                                               
included in SB  138 related to crimes. The thought  was that they                                                               
were redundant.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:49:54 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR MERRICK  referenced the provision  in Section 30  on page                                                               
17 that  says that  drop boxes will  be required  if practicable.                                                               
She asked how that should be interpreted.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR KAWASAKI asked Mr. Flynn to respond.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:50:19 PM                                                                                                                    
THOMAS  FLYNN,  Assistant  Attorney   General,  Labor  and  State                                                               
Affairs Section,  Civil Division,  Department of  Law, Anchorage,                                                               
Alaska, said  he assumes that it  would be up to  the division to                                                               
determine what's practical under the circumstances.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR MERRICK opined that the language was ambiguous.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR KAWASAKI noted the point.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:51:08 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  WIELECHOWSKI  asked Mr.  Flynn  to  describe a  scenario                                                               
under which  it would not be  practical to provide a  ballot drop                                                               
box.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR. FLYNN responded that  cost, availability, weather conditions,                                                               
special elections, and the timeline  to conduct an election could                                                               
all be relevant considerations.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR WIELECHOWSKI suggested that  the language in that section                                                               
might need to be tightened.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:51:54 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  KAWASAKI  polled the  committee  and  ascertained that  it                                                               
wasn't necessary for Mr. Longabaugh read the sectional analysis.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  KAWASAKI  asked  Carol  Thompson to  comment  on  how  the                                                               
process could work  to get absentee ballots  counted more quickly                                                               
or if that provision would be difficult to implement.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:53:19 PM                                                                                                                    
CAROL  THOMPSON,  Operations   Manager,  Division  of  Elections,                                                               
Office  of the  Lieutenant Governor,  Wasilla, Alaska,  explained                                                               
that  there  was a  broad  range  of  when ballots  are  counted.                                                               
Absentee  and early  vote ballots  start coming  in prior  to the                                                               
election  are  scanned and  tabulated  after  8:00 p.m.  election                                                               
night. Those are  published in the first vote round.  All the 130                                                               
plus  hand  count  locations  count  absentee  and  first  choice                                                               
ranked-choice  voting  (RCV)  ballots on  election  night.  Those                                                               
results  are called  in  and  the results  are  entered into  the                                                               
system.  Early vote  ballots that  are received  up to  a certain                                                               
date are  also scanned  and tabulated election  night and  put on                                                               
the results.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DOE  continues to  receive absentee  ballots after  Election Day.                                                               
The division records  the receipt of those ballots  and then they                                                               
go before a ballot review  board. Once they've been reviewed, the                                                               
envelopes are opened and the  ballots are tabulated. DOE tries to                                                               
accomplish a 7 day count after  Election Day followed by a 10 day                                                               
count and a 15 day count.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Question ballots that  are received on Election  Day are returned                                                               
to  the  regional  offices.  In  urban  areas  they're  delivered                                                               
election  night,  but others  have  to  be mailed.  The  regional                                                               
offices  have to  record the  receipt of  those ballots  and then                                                               
they go before a review board  that has to determine the count of                                                               
those ballots.  After that  the ballots  are opened  and counted.                                                               
This process also  starts the seventh day  following the election                                                               
and continues on  the 10th and 15th days  following the election.                                                               
In  presidential  year  elections there  are  significantly  more                                                               
question  ballots  because  there  is  same-day  registration  on                                                               
Election Day.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
She  recapped that  DOE typically  counts  and tabulates  ballots                                                               
starting  on Election  Day  and  for 15  days  after for  general                                                               
elections and 10 days after for primary elections.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR KAWASAKI said he appreciates the explanation.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
3:58:04 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR WIELECHOWSKI  asked whether SB 138  addressed the concern                                                               
that  the  preliminary  ranking  results  for  the  ranked-choice                                                               
voting were not available on election night.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. DUNSMORE said  that is not addressed in the  current draft of                                                               
the  bill.  He  deferred  to   DOE  to  speak  to  the  technical                                                               
feasibility of providing the results on election night.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR WIELECHOWSKI  repeated the  question for DOE  and offered                                                               
his  understanding  that the  statute  requires  the first  round                                                               
results to be  available on election night. He  asked whether the                                                               
administration  intends  to  provide   that  information  in  the                                                               
future.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MS.  THOMPSON agreed  that the  law speaks  to that  and DOE  had                                                               
clarified that the  precinct scanners that are used  at the polls                                                               
on election  night don't perform  ranked-choice voting.  The data                                                               
has to  be sent to the  ballot tabulation system in  Juneau. Once                                                               
all the ballot  images are gathered, ranked-choice  voting can be                                                               
performed.  Those  results  are  not all  available  on  election                                                               
night. Ballots  from the hand count  precincts, absentee ballots,                                                               
and question  ballots still have  to be  scanned and sent  to the                                                               
main  scanner  in  Juneau  where   ranked-choice  voting  can  be                                                               
performed. At that point DOE doesn't  know which races will go to                                                               
ranked-choice  voting.  Races  where one  candidate  receives  50                                                               
percent plus one vote don't go through RCV tabulation.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  WIELECHOWSKI asked  if this  was something  that can  be                                                               
fixed legislatively.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR. DUNSMORE  offered his understanding  that it  was technically                                                               
feasible  for  the raw  data  from  the  polling machines  to  be                                                               
released.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4:01:46 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  KAWASAKI found  no questions.  He remarked  that the  bill                                                               
appears complex with  43 sections, but many of  the elements have                                                               
been discussed  previously. He recounted  the course of  the bill                                                               
that passed the House and nearly  passed the Senate last year. He                                                               
noted  who his  office had  worked with  in drafting  SB 138  and                                                               
relayed his hope  to have good legislation that  could be adopted                                                               
through  DOE  regulations  prior  to the  2024  election.  Public                                                               
testimony  will  be heard  next  week  and  can be  submitted  to                                                               
senate.state.affairs@akleg.gov.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
4:04:01 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR BJORKMAN  expressed appreciation for the  bill. He opined                                                               
that  it  was important  to  have  election results  released  to                                                               
voters  as  the   raw  data  comes  in  on   election  night  and                                                               
thereafter.  DOE wasn't  expected  to declare  a  winner at  that                                                               
point.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
4:05:16 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR WIELECHOWSKI asked  if there was a reason  that DOE can't                                                               
post the raw data that comes out on election night.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MS. THOMPSON  replied that she didn't  recall how it was  done in                                                               
2022, but she  thought that a certain amount of  the raw data was                                                               
posted. She  was unclear on  the timeline. She offered  to follow                                                               
up with more definitive information.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR WIELECHOWSKI  asked her to follow  up on what DOE  did in                                                               
2022 and  whether it has the  capacity to release raw  data as it                                                               
comes in. He  asked Ms. Thompson if it was  her recollection that                                                               
the  raw data  was  posted  and if  there  was  a requirement  to                                                               
provide that information on election night.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:06:49 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. DUNSMORE said his recollection  was that DOE released the raw                                                               
data  files  after  they were  certified.  That  information  was                                                               
posted to  the website but  it was  not released prior  to having                                                               
the  complete   results  that  were  tabulated.   To  the  second                                                               
question, he said his understanding  was that the current statute                                                               
requires  precinct results  tapes  to display  the results  after                                                               
each ranking. That  was not done in the last  election but it was                                                               
a requirement in Ballot Measure II.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR WIELECHOWSKI  said that was his  recollection; the ballot                                                               
measure specifically required the raw  data to be released but it                                                               
wasn't until  after it was  certified, which was weeks  after the                                                               
election.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4:08:00 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR KAWASAKI agreed that should be examined further.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
He set an amendment deadline on May 1 close of business.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:09:30 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR KAWASAKI held SB 138 in committee.                                                                                        

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
SB 17 Fiscal note.pdf SSTA 4/27/2023 3:30:00 PM
SB 17
SB17.Sponsor.Statement.04.26.24.pdf SSTA 4/27/2023 3:30:00 PM
SB 17
SB17.Sectional.Analysis.04.24.23.pdf SSTA 4/27/2023 3:30:00 PM
SB 17
SB 17 Fiscal note.pdf SSTA 4/27/2023 3:30:00 PM
SB 17
SB0017A.PDF SSTA 4/27/2023 3:30:00 PM
SB 17
SB0138A.PDF SSTA 4/27/2023 3:30:00 PM
SB 138
a. SB138.Omnibus Elections sponsor statement 04-26-23.pdf SFIN 5/9/2023 1:30:00 PM
SSTA 4/27/2023 3:30:00 PM
SB 138
SB 138 Sectional Analysis.pdf SSTA 4/27/2023 3:30:00 PM
SB 138
SB 138 draft powerpoint.pdf SSTA 4/27/2023 3:30:00 PM
SB 138
SB 17 Presentation.1.pdf SSTA 4/27/2023 3:30:00 PM
SB 17